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Last Post 10/19/2005 1:08 PM by  dirtypropaganda
is anyone going to psychofest?!
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10/24/2005 10:44 AM
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What the hell was the story with Stazi? He looked like someones drunk uncle singing at a wedding. Atrocious!! Great day all the same!
Wasn't feeling Stazi at all, brutal absolutely shocking. The rest of bands were quite good, Mainline surprised me & Stagger Lee were a little gem. They should have got a later slot tho, note to orgainisers..
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10/24/2005 11:15 AM
good to see people tipping the hat to capsula. they were truly amazing..hopefully we see them back in dublin again. every band from sickboy at 5pm to the things and stazi after midnight gave 100% does anybody think that hotpress or any other publication came along to review the psychofest?? i was there all day and i got the un-nerving feeling that this event was being comletely ignored by media. the talent of all 10 acts spoke for itself, the packed voodoo lounge surely counted for a lot too...however the absense of a bellx1 tribute act or david gray might have been the thorn in the side of the organisers that might result in this s**t never being wrote about by the irish music press.....maybe im wrong about this and there was a million eager reviewrs lurking about..but if im right i think its a serious case of peolple not doing their job properly....does anybody else have any thoughts on this matter well done to the things for organising this great event there were a lot of true music fans and a lot of true matryrs to the buzz there on saturday and everyone seemed to be having the time of thier lives..the dublin city winter..i love it xx
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10/24/2005 11:29 AM
Wouldn't surprise me if the Irish music meedja gave the whole thing a wide berth. As you say they (ie Hotpress) have very specific ideas on what a "good" band sounds like and thankfully not one of the bands there on Saturday fit into their insular little categories, so I think thats a feather in everyones cap for starters. It was great to see so many degenerates out in force, a breath of fresh air. B*&*OLKS to Hotpress et al, even though they weild a fair bit of power they have no clue whats happening on the underground Dublin scene, you jsut have to read their publication. An alternative is long overdue.... The organisers put paid to any chance of Hotpress reviewers turning up by having a gig anywhere other than Whelans (shock horror).....
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10/24/2005 11:33 AM
if your lookin for an alternative akablue, Connected magazine aint bad and its free which is always a plus.
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10/24/2005 12:03 PM
So did someone from Connected go on Saturday? It amazes me that the media take this weird stance - i remember having a row with someone from Hotpress once about this very fact - of them not really having a clue about what's going on in Dublin, under their very noses and I was told in no uncertain terms that it is not the job of a magazine or newspaper to turn up and report about things that they are not informed about!!! What? Talk about missing the point! Obviously it helps if the media are given good noticed about stuff that's coming up - but these events are not put on for the sake of the bloody media - they're held for people that love music. Most music fans make a point of keeping an eye on what's coming up on the internet, through print etc. I would have thought it was a basic thing that a music journalist went out of their way to know what was going on instead of waiting for word to land on their desk with a juicy invitation each time. As a consequence I've come to realise that this is the sad truth. I have been totally naive when it's come to having faith in journos. Don't kid yourself in thinking that the mainstream press have any kind of a limb near the pulse - less a finger! It's a testament however, to how hard bands work here to get some kind of exposure, when largely they are ignored.
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10/24/2005 12:07 PM
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if your lookin for an alternative akablue, Connected magazine aint bad and its free which is always a plus.
Yeh s'not bad. BUT it'd be nice to have a bit more choice out there or even for the main music publication to reflect whats really going on in Dublin for a change. Saturday proves that there's so much more going on than others would have you believe & I think that 1 or 2 of the bands that played merit a least a mention in the meedja. Now I know that part of any undergroung scene thrives on word of mouth, it can be a bit of an "in the know" type thing and some people might a bit precious about it. If events like PsychoFest got lots of coverage would it lose some of its edge ? Dunno bout that but I do know that not everyone in Dublin wants to see the same stock of bands/singer songwriters night after night. Variey being the spice of life ecetra
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10/24/2005 12:36 PM
i reiterate dromed's question..did connected send anyone along to cover psychofest?? did anybody? im totally in agreement that its an underground thing and the acts involved are all very self sufficient. but i thinkg people would take hotpress way more seriously if they started to tap into this underground as opposed to 'my beauty routine' featuring one of the blokes out of the devlins sponsored by nivea for men ....every page is sponsored by something. maybe if mitsubishi or bavaria or apache pizza sponsored a page then some intersting acts might get written about..but till then hopefully the word of mouth will keep on keepin on
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10/24/2005 12:39 PM
i dont have a clue if anyone from connected was there or not. Youd think they would have been tho. Lets hope so.
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10/24/2005 1:01 PM
I know someone from Mongrel was there - but whether or not that was as a reviewer I aint too sure. Its absolute b****x that stuff like this - the real f**king side of Irish music - is ignored. I mean the amount of people that were there - without the backing of a marketing campaign - is testament enough that this thing was f**king big. It was a deadly night and really well run. Hats off to the organisers for the ridiculously cheap entry fee and kickin free CD. Hotpress can f**k off. They havent a clue anyway.
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10/24/2005 1:24 PM
I disagree. I think the answer is for us all to tone down our music untill it is acceptable.
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10/24/2005 1:53 PM
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I know someone from Mongrel was there - but whether or not that was as a reviewer I aint too sure. Its absolute b****x that stuff like this - the real f**king side of Irish music - is ignored. I mean the amount of people that were there - without the backing of a marketing campaign - is testament enough that this thing was f**king big. It was a deadly night and really well run. Hats off to the organisers for the ridiculously cheap entry fee and kickin free CD.
I don't know if its a case of what type of music is more "real". To be honest what you or I might call "real" isn't necessarily "real" to everyone. Thats the great thing about music, its a diverse as people are. Personally, I love that there are so many different things going on (contrary to what Hotpress would have you believe), Saturday night being a prime example. So I think everyone's is in agreement that the Irish music meedja are a self-serving, pschyophantic lot. The whole industry seems to run on a kind of back slapping old boys network and most of us (ordinary punters) will always be on the outside of that particular private members club.
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10/24/2005 2:00 PM
I think its definitely a shame that Hot Press, the Ticket etc weren't there. It would have made a potentially interesting article, especially in the Ticket if they could have had maybe some interviews with the organisers etc, and it could also have opened the door for further pieces on this new scene. I dont think its right to say f**k Hotpress, they are the biggest thing out there, and should have been there. So shame on them for sure, but people like that are needed on board if the scene is ever really going to take off, and it certainly wouldnt hurt any of the artists there to be featured in that magazine. Hell if they ask nicely, i'll write a piece for the next one!
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10/24/2005 2:17 PM
i think its quite right to say f**k hotpress! if more people said it then maybe they would take a start and get their act together. not likely though.
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10/24/2005 2:19 PM
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every page is sponsored by something.
You are aware of course that it is not the job of the print media to cover stuff, it's function is to sell advertising space.
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10/24/2005 2:24 PM
well there seems to be quite a few articulate and well informed individuals on this very message board who could give hotpress a run for their money if they stopped moaning long enough to do something about it. why not start up a new (long awaited) irish music mag concentrating on these underground bands - give them a voice. why be a slave to hotpiss?
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10/24/2005 2:25 PM
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I dont think its right to say f**k Hotpress, they are the biggest thing out there, and should have been there. So shame on them for sure
Thats what i meant - f**k them for not giving a s**t about a bunch of bands that are really tryin to work hard and give it their all. And the use of the word 'real' was a bad choice... I'm all up for the diversity. But (and this has been said so many times) - there is much more going on now than Hotpress have ever ever given time to outside their little comfort zone and thats is a load of s**t in my opinion
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10/24/2005 2:33 PM
yeah i dont mean people shouldn't say f**k hotpress, im pretty pissed off myself. What i meant is that, they should be brought on board, somehow, or a viable alternative should be set up. Thats not really likely though, cos it would take a huge amount of money, and effort, to have something on the same scale as hot press. Man, hopefully if the bands keep plugging away, and more and more people start to come to gigs they will be forced to listen. not f**king likely though.
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10/24/2005 2:50 PM
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, they should be brought on board, somehow, or a viable alternative should be set up.
Ah f**k that in fairness - like kiss their arse anymore than they already demand? No way man - id be up for the viable alternative alright tho. I mean I know its all give and take in this game man but when the main (only?) music press in the country cant even be arsed to come down or put some coverage on one of the best independently run nights in the country thats pretty bad. you think they'd be creaming themselves over the passion and enthusiasm of the young irish scene and the DIY ethos... but no - cause they're still creamin themselves over the same s**te they always do. I know loads of people wont agree but thats my 2 cents.
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10/24/2005 2:55 PM
I think Hotpress have their own interests to protect, it suits them (as an organisation) to champion certain types of music more than others. As I said its a "I'll scratch your back if you scratch mine" lovefest & I don't really see it changing any time soon. I don't mean that as defeatist resigination more of a perception of how things stand at the moment. I don't see it as a relevant publication, not for my musical preferences anyway. I've more respect for SMASH HITS.....it does exactly what it says on the tin!
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10/24/2005 3:13 PM
So does anyone have any photos of the night?? So i can see if the little I remember is accurate!!!
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