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Last Post 8/24/2005 10:57 PM by  Una
Hard Working Class Heroes
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Pilchard
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9/1/2005 9:45 AM
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Originally posted by stroller
I'd like to ask the people who believe that Una has a conflict of interest what their opinion is of Leagues O Toole? He presented No Disco whilst simultaneously running the Volta Beats record label. I can remember a hip hop special curated by Leagues entitled Yo Disco which featured such luminaries as Gang Starr, The Roots, De La Soul and er....Creative Control (who were signed to Volta at the time). Also Donal Dineen plugged the f*ck out of David Gray's White Ladder when it was first released despite the fact that he did the photo art for the sleeve. Apparently David Gray went on to play alongside Glen Hansard and david Kitt at Donal's wedding. Do those facts make you have any less respect for him? Personally I have no problem with either of these guys. Ireland's too small to have an impartial press. Everybody knows everybody. It's just a fact of life.
Re Leagues O'Toole. Running a label and plugging your releases on TV and radio is a conflict of interest because you gain from the exposure (though given the lack of sales for Creative Controle/Messy J, thats a moot point). A similar situation happened in Britain a few years ago when Steve Lamacq (then NME and BBC Radio One) was involved with Deceptive Records (Elastica) and he was told by the station controllers to stop playing their records. In Leagues O'Toole's case, the Today FM head of music should take this into account and make sure he doesnt play any records he is invovled in (ie anything on Volta Sounds) when he stands in for Tom Dunne or Donal Dineen Re Donal Dineen. I dont think he has played a David Gray record on his radio show since "White Ladder". He's also a photographer and film-maker so you could argue that Gray using one of his pics is just part of the job. The fact that Gray used a pic and Dineen then stopped playing his records kinda says it all! The Leagues O'Toole thing is much bigger, though. Running a magazine (even if its a mag which never seems to come out) and doing radio shows AND doing a label is a conflict of interest, no matter how much wriggle room u want to apply.
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9/1/2005 9:49 AM
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Originally posted by Ciarán Ryan
Woooh, just jumped on this thread. I was potentially in a similar situation to Una's. Writing for cluas a few years ago, I wrote gushing reviews of Waiting Room and giveamanakick. At the time, I had no involvement with either band but became a big fan of both. Now, I'm involved in a label that puts out releases from them, and when I approached another publication to do a review of a record we were putting out before, I was told I could do the review myself under a pseudonym. Obviously, I didn't but I've seen a number of reviews nationally over the years that seem a bit too pally for my liking
care to elaborate, ciaran? would be interested to hear what those were while we're on the subject of conflicts of interest, i found out the other week that jim carroll was involved in starting up Lakota Records (JJ72, Jubilee Allstars etc) but left years ago. apparently, because of his involvment with the label, he has NEVER written about any of the acts which strikes me as a pretty good get-out clause of having to listen to the s**te he signed then!
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9/1/2005 10:01 AM
stroller is right that Ireland is too small to be really antsy about this. You just hope to use your best judgement. I know people who are journos, musicians, promoters and band managers! But they just try and use their best judgement and generally, if you do that, people have regard for your honesty and equal regard for the position you can find yourself in when you have to take 4 low-paying jobs in the same industry to get by. It's just the way it is. Of course, there are those who are more vindictive and play those positions off each other for their own benefit.
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9/1/2005 6:53 PM
i dont mean to have a hard on about this people.....but could you guys possibly start another thread when yiz start squabbling about something which has nothing to do with the original thread topic. now back to the music & hard working class heroes the zealots: very good performance stagger lee: bit of a disappointment, i'd heard good things
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9/1/2005 8:39 PM
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Originally posted by clamps
i dont mean to have a hard on about this people.....but could you guys possibly start another thread when yiz start squabbling about something which has nothing to do with the original thread topic. now back to the music & hard working class heroes the zealots: very good performance stagger lee: bit of a disappointment, i'd heard good things
u need THIS http://www.cluas.com/discussion/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=5246
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9/2/2005 1:37 PM
Betamax Format were quality, really impressed with Sickboy although they got ripped off soundwise at both their main slot and their aftershow gig, bloody Spirit!
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