stroller Advanced Member Posts:576  
| 4/19/2005 7:41 PM |
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Originally posted by Una
I think what you mean is, 'the only place to hear hip-hop for people who like rock music'
No what I mean is that indelible is the only place to hear hip-hop for people who like hip-hop. MTV Base's playlist of dumbed down, diluted, mass produced R&B only caters for kids, chavs and musical retards. Indelible play a great mix of classics (A Tribe Called Quest, Gang Starr, Ultramagnetic MCs, Big Daddy Kane, Souls of Mischief) and contemporary talent (Edan, Mr Lif, Madvillian, Ghostface, Roots Manuva). |
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Una Veteran Member Posts:1721
| 4/19/2005 7:51 PM |
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I was joking, though. Obviously not very clear.
I'm not one of these 'musical retards' but I still like some of the stuff on MTV Bass: dizzee rascal, jay-z, 50cent, dre, eminem, nas, and The Lick. This stuff is more popular, yeah, but that doesn't make it 'less valid'. This is rap, we're talking about though. The term hip-hop has been totally distorted.
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strollerAdvanced Member Posts:576
| 4/19/2005 8:08 PM |
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Originally posted by Una
I was joking, though. Obviously not very clear.
I'm not one of these 'musical retards' but I still like some of the stuff on MTV Bass: dizzee rascal, jay-z, 50cent, dre, eminem, nas, and The Lick. This stuff is more popular, yeah, but that doesn't make it 'less valid'. This is rap, we're talking about though. The term hip-hop has been totally distorted.
No one's distorted hip-hop more than that talentless c*nt 50 Cent. Shot nine times? The should have only shot him once, right between the eyes. |
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UnaVeteran Member Posts:1721
| 4/19/2005 8:25 PM |
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um, i dont think he's talentless. I couldnt give a b****x how many times he was shot. I like his flow and his songs. Should I be thinking about what his whole life is to enjoy 'Hate It Or Love It'? Ish dont think so.
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strollerAdvanced Member Posts:576
| 4/19/2005 8:53 PM |
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Originally posted by Una
um, i dont think he's talentless. I couldnt give a b****x how many times he was shot. I like his flow and his songs. Should I be thinking about what his whole life is to enjoy 'Hate It Or Love It'? Ish dont think so.
You're dead right to not give a b****x about how many times he was shot. I just wish that you couldn't give a b****x about his music. When In Da Club came out I really believed it was going to be a pivotal release in hip hop. Never before had I heard a record that arrived on such a wave of hype but which was so unbelievably poor. I assumed that it would be a watershed moment where people realised that hip-hop had reached rock bottom and that the record companies had realised that they could stick any talentless moron on top of a Dre beat and it would still sell copies. I hoped that people would say it was the worst hip hop record they'd heard and that they'd vow never to succumb to hype again. I hoped it would bomb. I hoped that people would rebel and abandon Tim Westwood and the like and try and seek out real hip hop music and that their changing tastes would trigger a resurgence in the quality hip hop that dominated the early 90's. What happened? The talentless c*nt sold 7million records. Sigh... |
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UnaVeteran Member Posts:1721
| 4/19/2005 9:17 PM |
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I think In Da Club is an amazing record, to be quite honest. I think this comes down to a difference in taste, more than anything. Yeah, loads of people like 50 coz of his image, the same way they like Pete Doherty and Madonna. As long as he keeps making songs that people like, he'll keep selling records.
Worse than 50 is the bloody backlash he's getting from Ja Rule and Fat Joe, as if they've ever made a decent cut in their lives (apart from Ja's So Much Pain).
But, i do think there is a lot of b****x backlash against 'mainstream' hip hop. Some of it is just an excuse for Dilated Peoples to make a lame record and then say "yo, we're not mainstream! We're pioneers, we're keeping it real. The fact that we don't sell as much as 50 proves this." When, in reality, the fact that they don't sell as much as 50 is because they are s**te. I'm just using DP as an example.
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strollerAdvanced Member Posts:576
| 4/19/2005 9:50 PM |
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Originally posted by Una
[But, i do think there is a lot of b****x backlash against 'mainstream' hip hop. Some of it is just an excuse for Dilated Peoples to make a lame record and then say "yo, we're not mainstream! We're pioneers, we're keeping it real. The fact that we don't sell as much as 50 proves this." When, in reality, the fact that they don't sell as much as 50 is because they are s**te. I'm just using DP as an example.
The reason why Dilated Peoples don't sell as many records as 50 Cent is because their music isn't dumb enough to appeal to the vast majority of people. I'm not the biggest Dilated fan in the world and I'm the first to admit that their last album was hugely disappointing but tunes like the Platform and Worst Comes To Worst sh*t all over anything 50's ever released. |
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UnaVeteran Member Posts:1721
| 4/19/2005 10:10 PM |
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"The reason why Dilated Peoples don't sell as many records as 50 Cent is because their music isn't dumb enough to appeal to the vast majority of people."
I'd disagree, I'd say it's because their beats suck and they have no flow, and our f**king pious really. You can only be pure if you're good.
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UnicronVeteran Member Posts:1696
| 4/20/2005 1:32 PM |
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Originally posted by stroller
When In Da Club came out I really believed it was going to be a pivotal release in hip hop. Never before had I heard a record that arrived on such a wave of hype but which was so unbelievably poor. I assumed that it would be a watershed moment where people realised that hip-hop had reached rock bottom and that the record companies had realised that they could stick any talentless moron on top of a Dre beat and it would still sell copies.
I really like the beats on In Da Club but I can't stand Fiddy as an MC, I think he's got a really pedestrian flow.
I bought the new DJ Format over the weekend, really liking it based on one listen so far.
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BinokularVeteran Member Posts:1665
| 4/20/2005 1:57 PM |
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Anyone heard Beyonces version of "In Da Club" (complete with radically changed, cleaner lyrics)? its amazing how little the track loses without 50 cents rapping.
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cromalin New Member Posts:13
| 4/20/2005 2:22 PM |
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Originally posted by mick
i just hope someone rediscovers 2 unlimited. or at least covers 'rhythm is a dancer' 
To quote their only hit NO NO NO NO theres no limit. They were s**te in the early 90s and unlike good wine they havent improved with age.
Check out http://www.the2unlimited.com/ |
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GarVeteran Member Posts:1676
| 4/20/2005 2:36 PM |
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Is the glam rock era slowly creeping back in? Scissor Sisters, Do Me Bad Things etc. Pretty soon Friday nights will see the hoardes marching back down to Harold's Cross for the late screening of 'Rocky Horror Picture Show'.
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BinokularVeteran Member Posts:1665
| 4/20/2005 2:46 PM |
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I'd argue that Goldfrapp and Rachel Stevens (yes, the one that used to be in S Club 7) have already revived glam rock pretty successfully.
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strollerAdvanced Member Posts:576
| 4/20/2005 3:55 PM |
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Originally posted by Binokular
I'd argue that Goldfrapp and Rachel Stevens (yes, the one that used to be in S Club 7) have already revived glam rock pretty successfully.
They're not alone. One of the most blatently obvious Glam records of the last few years was Grace by Supergrass. |
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strollerAdvanced Member Posts:576
| 4/20/2005 4:09 PM |
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Originally posted by Una
"The reason why Dilated Peoples don't sell as many records as 50 Cent is because their music isn't dumb enough to appeal to the vast majority of people."
I'd disagree, I'd say it's because their beats suck and they have no flow, and our f**king pious really. You can only be pure if you're good.
I can only assume at this stage that you're either taking the p*ss just to get a rise out of me or that you've never heard Dilated Peoples in you life. If the latter case is true then you can click on the links below to listen to two of their best tunes (both with beats superior to anything 50 Cent's ever appeared on). Just click the Listen Now Button on the relevant pages.
Dilated Peoples - 'The Platform'
http://www.undergroundhiphop.com/audio/detail.asp?ID=1989
Dilated Peoples - 'Worst Comes To Worst'
http://www.undergroundhiphop.com/audio/detail.asp?ID=6103
If you want to hear what a decent MC's flow is supposed to sound like (as opposed to 50 cent's mumbled, lethargic, inarticulate nonsense) than check out Evidence's verse on this tune, also the cut's are by Babu (Just in case you didn't know both Evidence and Babu are members of Dilated Peoples)
Encore feat. Evidence - 'Filthy'
http://www.undergroundhiphop.com/audio/detail.asp?ID=3807
Enjoy! |
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PilchardAdvanced Member Posts:699
| 4/20/2005 4:14 PM |
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Originally posted by Gar
Is the glam rock era slowly creeping back in? Scissor Sisters, Do Me Bad Things etc. Pretty soon Friday nights will see the hoardes marching back down to Harold's Cross for the late screening of 'Rocky Horror Picture Show'.
they'll be too late - the cinema closed down in 2003!
maybe that tells u all u need to know about the glam rock revival.
have been some shocking reviews of Do Me Bad Things live so will leave that one well alone |
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