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Last Post 2/2/2005 11:40 AM by Gar

Racism In Ireland

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klootfan

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2/2/2005 4:58 PM
fair enough...i suppose in someway an education process needs to take place in ireland as to what is and isnt acceptable in terms of terminology. As someone has already said, up until relatively recently, irish people in general were not exposed to foreign people and their cultures. I think you are right though. most irish people are not purposely racist.

kierry

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2/2/2005 5:09 PM
Nail on the head, its all about education. Statistical trends point to immigrants (and by this i mean anyone moving into the country) mostly moving to disadvantaged areas. this causes a knock-on affect, as statistics would also point to most crime and prison inmates being from disadvantaged areas. as a consequence, a cycle is created which takes generations to escape from, which causes predjudice and mistrust. Ireland is still one of the only country where a person could tell a racist joke to his friends in the pub. Education (at its best) can intigrate society in a way that removes boundaries. Aswell as learning about different cultures a student can mix with people from different cultures and think less about and 'Us' and 'them' situation. it will get better. hopefully.

Rev Jules

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2/2/2005 6:01 PM
quote: Originally posted by kierry ...Ireland is still one of the only country where a person could tell a racist joke to his friends in the pub... I have edited the above phrase for sense to remove any inadvertant misunderstanding of Kierry's point.

Unicron

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2/2/2005 6:09 PM
quote: Originally posted by Eoin true, just the same for Catholics in the 6 counties though eh ! True but the North still has those sectarian problems, I was just pointing out that racism/sectarianism didn't just appear without precident in the republic in '98 when we first started getting refugees in significant numbers. And besides, everyone remembers what Catholics were exposed to in the North, the fact that there were boycotts of Protestant business's back in the day (there was that case in Wicklow over the mixed denomination couple which caused a boycott because the father objected to the priest coming to the house and insisting that the kids were raised Catholic, they made a film about it) and that as a girl my mum (and it wasn't limited to her I'm sure) got stoned (and not the good way) while walking to and from school isn't so prominant in the public conciousness. For the record, I've never experienced any kind of problem because of the denomination in which I was raised in this country so whatever happened then certainly doesn't happen now.

Archie

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2/2/2005 9:06 PM
We're talking about people with different coloured skin, but what about English? The Irish for some god-unknown reason still persist in hating them (at least when they're drunk) I know of at least one guy fronting a local Irish band who gets serious stick when people hear his English accent.

stroller

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2/3/2005 3:28 AM
quote: Originally posted by Unicron A band from Galway called Lucas have recently recruited a new guitarist from Jamaica, other than that I've yet to see a black person in any Irish band. What about Thin Lizzy?

Unicron

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2/3/2005 1:19 PM
quote: Originally posted by stroller What about Thin Lizzy? Pardon me while I bang my head against the wall because of my stupidity.

mutch

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2/3/2005 6:06 PM
quote: Originally posted by kierry quote: Originally posted by Optimus However I've been looking for a black singer for a long time. Purely because of the sheer power of the voice those guys have. And I'm not being racist. They just have stronger voices than us whities. yes. "they" do. don't they. they're great dancers too i hear. I know what youer saying and its all good, however, I'm asusming yuo are white, in which case to be offend on someone elses behalf is the height of arrogance. watch a richard pryor dvd

kierry

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2/3/2005 10:20 PM
quote: I know what youer saying and its all good, however, I'm asusming yuo are white, in which case to be offend on someone elses behalf is the height of arrogance. watch a richard pryor dvd i'm not offended. i used a 'disapprove' smiley. and i actually think the height of arrogance is telling someone that their opinion is the 'height of arrogance'. thanks for your time, Kierry. ps: use spellcheck.

Gar

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2/3/2005 11:09 PM
That Richard Pryor dvd is great stuff...

Unicron

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2/4/2005 1:25 PM
My favourite Pryer gig is on a video called live and smoking where he's coked out of his mind and he's playing to the whitest audience imaginable, he died spectacularly. I must pick up that one that was released recently.

mutch

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2/4/2005 5:17 PM
i'm not offended. i used a 'disapprove' smiley. and i actually think the height of arrogance is telling someone that their opinion is the 'height of arrogance'. thanks for your time, Kierry. ps: use spellcheck. ********** amazing. really and truly amazing!

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