OptimusBasic Member Posts:312
11/18/2004 12:07 PM |
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far better than mine...
I'm hiding my laughter as best I can as it is not appropriate in the workplace...
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eoghanBasic Member Posts:331
11/18/2004 1:00 PM |
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A bit of internet-based research reveals that this McFadden fella was born on 04/12/80. Which means he hit (no pun intended) secondary school in Sept 1993 at the earliest, but more likely in Sept 1994. Now, having undergone an Irish secondary education in the second half of 1980s myself, I remember that earlier period as one when corporal punishment was very much frowned upon in Oireland. The really rough stuff was going on well before then and started to drop off the classroom radar around the early 80s (I for one remember in primary school in the late 1970s getting walloped on the arse by a teacher with one of those plastic metre long sticks for some forgettable crime against 5 or 6 year old humanity, but I can recall nothing of consequence that happened after that – be it to me or to mates). Anyway, by the early nineties corporal punishment was just not tolerated in Irish society (although there were no doubt (and continue to be) a few exceptions standing at the top of class rooms around the country).
What I'm driving at is that if McFadden was abused in school in the mid-nineties, yeah he can write a song about it but surely the socially responsible thing to do would be to name and shame whoever abused him (hey, they may still teaching kids today) or at the very least report them to the appropriate authorities. This would be a more constructive, responsible and credible approach to the whole question, than deciding to go public on chat shows with this just as your new single inspired by the trauma is released.
Yours in pious self-righteousness.
eoghan
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aidanAdvanced Member Posts:638
11/18/2004 1:12 PM |
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'hands across the barricades' by brian mcfarten:
I grew up in dublin
only 100 miles from belfast
so I too was scarred
by our violent sectarian past
now we have no fighting
and it's really bad
because now I can't sing my
self-important song about peace that I wrote having watched 1 minute of sky news about 6 months ago and sat in a corporate box at the last celtic-rangers game....
CHORUS:
let's start all the bombing and killing again
so that I can act like bono
and sing about my pain
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11/18/2004 1:38 PM |
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Brian (Bryan???) McFaggott = MUPPETT
The End.
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aidanAdvanced Member Posts:638
11/18/2004 1:40 PM |
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sean, no need to use that kind of abuse.
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OptimusBasic Member Posts:312
11/18/2004 1:46 PM |
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Yeah man...
Dont insult muppets!!!
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11/18/2004 1:50 PM |
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great stuff.
who wrote the potato one again?
feck'n' deadly.
...we should put together a cluas charity single for christmas.....man o man.
any titles?
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OptimusBasic Member Posts:312
11/18/2004 1:58 PM |
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Yep...."Brian McFadden Is Un-Bear-Able"...
And off we go again...
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klootfanAdvanced Member Posts:851
11/18/2004 2:18 PM |
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Check out this article in the belfast telegraph om mcfadden.
excellent stuff...
i love the "patrick casey" reference
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/lifestyle/music/story.jsp?story=583766
As for the abuse in school. Just because it was illegal doesnt mean it didnt happen. I went to secondary school in the late 80's early 90's and it was common enough to see someone get a slap from a teacher.
I remember those metre sticks and their secondary use.
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adminBasic Member Posts:399
11/18/2004 3:17 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by klootfan
As for the abuse in school. Just because it was illegal doesnt mean it didnt happen. I went to secondary school in the late 80's early 90's and it was common enough to see someone get a slap from a teacher. I remember those metre sticks and their secondary use.
Yeah klootfan, a couple of slaps was common enough back in the late 80s, 90s, and I'm sure they are taking place today with some teachers. But I’ll hazard a guess that 99.9% of those slaps are nowhere near the league of abuse that was more common in the 70s and way earlier. As we all know this was horrific stuff and it has been well documented in all sorts of Irish literature, films, TV confessionals, Oireachtas reports, tribunal transcripts, etc, etc… The culture of parading one’s institutionally inflicted trauma is well and truly established by now, something McFadden was no doubt aware of as his, er, career took this latest nauseating turn. But I wonder was he ever so far moved by his own experiences that he went and read or viewed or listened to the accounts of others of earlier generations who were genuinely traumatised? Personally, I have my doubts. Because if he did surely he would have seen that “three of four slaps” was not worth wingeing about on the walk home from school don’t mind on national TV or in a recording studio.
Anyway don’t let my excessive earnestness get in the way of the excellent entries to the first annual Brian McFadden Victimhood Song Contest. Keep ‘em coming!
eoghan
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klootfanAdvanced Member Posts:851
11/19/2004 12:19 PM |
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Check out what elton john makes of McFaddens new song
http://breakingnews.ie/2004/11/19/story176611.html
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EricBasic Member Posts:179
11/22/2004 11:07 AM |
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Hilarious! I share your feelings Elton.
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caps lockNew Member Posts:35
11/22/2004 2:36 PM |
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sweet divine!!!The git has the same birthday as me!Fingers crossed I'll bump into him in Lillies on the big night, what a great way to start my 24th year
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d.o.b.3New Member Posts:39
11/22/2004 2:58 PM |
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this coming from a complete tosser who only ever sings other people's (mainly bernie taupins s**t)lyrics - the likes of this!
PAIN
Music by Elton John
Lyrics by Bernie Taupin
Available on the (elton john) album Made In England
What's your name, my name is Pain
Where do you live, I live anyplace
Where were you born, in the state of fear
How old are you, nineteen hundred and ninety four years
What's your plan, my plan is pain
When will you leave, I'll never go away
How will you breathe, you'll give me life
How will you see, sitting in the temple right between your eyes
My name is Pain, you belong to me
You're all I wanted, I'm all you'll ever be
From the beginning in a world without end
I am the air, I am Pain
Pain is love, Pain is pure
Pain is sickness, Pain is the cure
Pain is death, Pain is religion
Pain is life, Pain is television
Pain walks, Pain crawls
Pain is peace, Pain is war
Where were you born, in the state of fear
How old are you, nineteen hundred and ninety four years
My name is Pain, you belong to me
You're all I ever wanted, I'm all you'll ever be
From the beginning in a world without end
I am the air, I am Pain
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ugh. but my favourite line has got to be the 'television' one!...
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spurtacusBasic Member Posts:229
11/22/2004 3:17 PM |
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that is fairly s**te alright!
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ArchieBasic Member Posts:458
11/22/2004 6:14 PM |
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That's just brilliant i love it!
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Made Of StoneNew Member Posts:22
11/22/2004 10:34 PM |
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He has got the song writing ability of a 5 year old!
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vandalaBasic Member Posts:267
11/23/2004 4:49 PM |
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More fuel to the fire. Hope you burn, Brian...
School 'outraged' McFadden song linked it to corporal punishment
Alison Healy (IRISH TIMES 23.11)
The principal of St Fintan's High School in Sutton, Co Dublin, said yesterday the school was "outraged" at a video by the singer, Brian McFadden, that misleadingly linked the school with corporal punishment.
The singer's music label, Sony BMG, said the reference to the school was unintentional. When it was brought to its attention, the video was removed from television stations and a new version is being issued.
The song in question, Irish Son, speaks about "being born in the heart of Dublin/ back when being gay wasn't cool".
The lyrics include the following: "Made get on our knees every Sunday with the other fools/we were warped by the Christian Brothers/in the cell blocks at our schools/get a handprint on your skin/before your break their rules".
In the video, McFadden plays the part of a taxi driver taking a boy to school. He drops the boy at a school with a sign for "St Fintan's School for Boys".
The only St Fintan's school in Dublin which is run by the Christian Brothers is St Fintan's High School in Sutton. However, the singer was not a pupil there and never had any connection with the school.
The building shown in the video is not St Fintan's High School.
Yesterday the school's principal, Mr d**k Fogarty, said it was "unacceptable" that the video linked the school with corporal punishment. Pupils at the school had seen the video on a music channel and told the teachers about it, he said.
"We certainly were alarmed, especially when we saw the lyrics of the song," he said.
The entire community was outraged, Mr Fogarty added, as the school was such an integral part of the community.
"Pupils are being slagged, to use their own term, by pupils from other schools," he said. "Not only the teachers, but the pupils themselves are outraged at this."
He said the record label had said it believed the school name was fictitious yet McFadden lived in Portmarnock, less than three miles from the school.
If it was an unfortunate coincidence, then it was a very careless mistake to make, the principal said.
The school had worked hard to build its reputation and was one of the top schools in north Dublin, Mr Fogarty said, but now the video had been linked in the public mind with St Fintan's. He called on McFadden or his record label to apologise for the damage done to the school. "They have apologised for the confusion caused," he said, "but that's not enough. This is unacceptable."
Yesterday the singer's spokesman, Mr Max Clifford, was issuing no apologies when he spoke to RTÉ's News At One.
He claimed the school had brought the issue into the public domain themselves. "They are the only people that are drawing attention to the school. Nobody else has," he said.
"Obviously he didn't go to that school and presumably everybody knows he didn't go to that school if that's the case. So, therefore, they wouldn't think it could have happened there because he didn't go there," Mr Clifford said.
McFadden's song is proving controversial for more than one reason. The singer, Elton John, has slated it in the latest edition of Time Out magazine.
"Brian is probably a nice man," Elton John writes, "but I nearly died when I listened to Irish Son. I absolutely hated it. It's the worst lyric on a record I've ever heard. I had to take it off in case I committed suicide. It's just horrible."
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