Before I say anything else I should state that I have no claim to being the biggest Frames fan ever, I have the albums and I go to the occasional gig but that's about it. It was after the gig in Marley Park I got thinking about this. I can't understand why so many Irish people that genuinely have a love of music have such a hatred of the frames?! It can be argued that they do run the contemorary Irish music scene at the moment, but then again, if they didn't it'd just be someone else. I would go so far as to say that this is necessary ever since the axing of no disco left a big hole in our lives. I can sort of understand why some people love the frames to a near bunny boiler degree because, love them or hate them, they always put on a good show and I have never heard or read an interview in which Glen Hansard has sounded like a pretentious prick. If it was the case that they went abroad and made their name in England or elsewhere and totally forgot their roots I could understand the whole Frames bashing thing (does anyone like The Thrills???). But they've put in the hard yards at home and have tried to strehgthen the Irish music scene, in my opinion anyway.