Binokular Veteran Member Posts:1665  
| 8/28/2006 6:58 PM |
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Right, complete opposite of the guilty pleasures thread. Is there any music out there that's completely and utterly inexcusable in it's badness. By inexcusable, I mean, not only is the music crap, but has absolutely nothing to justify its' existence. In fact it makes you wonder who the hell is actually buying this stuff?
I mean something as cringeworthy as Steps or Whigfield might be cheesy but isn't inexcusable because:
a)it's quite fun at weddings/office parties/etc. especially after large quantities of Alcohol
b) it gives wedding DJs something else to play when they've run out of Abba records at 2AM.
Stuff that I do regard as inexcuseable:
Ronan Keating / Westlife / BOZOne - it manages to be utter cheese, but doesn't actually work as pop music on any level, it's not catchy or fun. Seems to be favoured by 2FM/Today FM afternoon "drivetime" DJs to make their inane verbal drivel seem interesting by comparison.
Trance /Happy hardcore versions of 80s MOR- Right, this has got to STOP now! You know what I mean, Eric Prydz "Call on Me" (the one with that Aerobics video), Sunblock covering the baywatch theme, any tune that starts with some little helium voiced girly drippy balad vocal then (suprise! betya didn't see it coming!) erupts into Scooter-esque style huge cheap crappy cliched happy hardcore synth line. Just awful, bizarrely, I really have no idea who is buying this, but it's killing mainstream dance music.
anyway, I could go on, but already I've had a good old rant (yes, I do feel much better now, thanks.)
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yoshimi New Member Posts:63
| 8/28/2006 10:32 PM |
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The geezer on the mobile phone that goes huunnnddidddldidldldidldld - Crazy Frog. Yeeeaaagh.
The Mr. Blobby Song.
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vandala Basic Member Posts:267
| 8/28/2006 10:45 PM |
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Not a tough question, Binokular: the answer is kids between the ages of 7 and 14. The stuff is marketed at kids. Personally, I find Westlife and co. a lot less offensive that certain other kinds of music "orientated" to my age group. Westlife is for kids. Let them enjoy it.
Of course, there are grown adults who buy the stuff too and I would agree that those people are mentally disturbed, but that's the kind of culture we live in....an infantilized culture. Personally, I bought-out of it a long time ago: nobody really cares about that stuff other than children, the gormless, and people who are forced to take an interest in such inanities because they work in the media and therefore have to know about it.
We should pity these people, and have mercy upon them. The rest of us exist quite happily enjoying good music and avoiding "youth" programming... as I'm sure you do, too, Binokular. 
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ctrlaltdeleteBasic Member Posts:268
| 8/28/2006 10:57 PM |
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Seconded on that speedy happy hardcore with chipmunk voices and bells and whistles. Often heard eminating from boyracer motors. There's stuff that's so much worse than erik prydz, it's frightening.
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BinokularVeteran Member Posts:1665
| 8/28/2006 11:04 PM |
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Originally posted by vandala
Not a tough question, Binokular: the answer is kids between the ages of 7 and 14. The stuff is marketed for kids. Personally, I find Westlife and co. a lot less offensive that certain other kinds of music "orientated" to my age group. Westlife is for kids. Let them enjoy it.
I disagree. Maybe the marketing is cynically aimed at kids, but not the music. What 7 year old likes slow drippy ballads? Gimme a break! OK maybe girls in their early teens with their first crush or something, but when I was in primary school (I went to a mixed school by the way if you're thinking this is just a male perspective) theres no way most kids would have listened to this sort of stuff, they simply don't have the attention span for this sort of stuff, it lacks movement. The nearest thing to something like westlife I can remember hearing at that age was a Barbara Streisand record my mum had, which prompted a total "TURN THAT CRAP OFF" spack-out reaction from m everytime she put it on.
In contrast, I can totally see why the pre-teen market loved a band like S-Club 7, Five, Girls Aloud or even (ugh!) Take That to an extent but not westlife. It's just bizarre.
Anyway, that's just my skewed perspective, and I'm not Louis Walsh, so what do I know?
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vandalaBasic Member Posts:267
| 8/28/2006 11:20 PM |
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When it comes to the stuff we are discussing, I would suggest there is no real difference between marketing and music. It's the package that is purchased, not the tune: I don't see a lot of difference between Westlife and the current penchant for "emo" crap or whatever: it's just giving kids a pre-packaged identity and most pre-teens need that.There's different strokes for different folks, but only so many personalities to choose from...romantic, rebel, indie-kid, etc.
Obviously, 95% of people grow out of this crap and learn to take music on its own terms. Those that don't become the target market for "adult orientated pop" like James Blunt.
And the fact you had good taste as a child is not a defence for those that didn't!
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Mully Advanced Member Posts:849
| 8/29/2006 9:10 AM |
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Originally posted by Binokular
Trance /Happy hardcore versions of 80s MOR- Right, this has got to STOP now! You know what I mean, Eric Prydz "Call on Me" (the one with that Aerobics video), Sunblock covering the baywatch theme, any tune that starts with some little helium voiced girly drippy balad vocal then (suprise! betya didn't see it coming!) erupts into Scooter-esque style huge cheap crappy cliched happy hardcore synth line. Just awful, bizarrely, I really have no idea who is buying this, but it's killing mainstream dance music.
Quite like the Aurora/Naimee Coleman cover of Duran Duran's 'Odrinary World'. |
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Man in a canBasic Member Posts:106
| 8/29/2006 9:39 AM |
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Might i just add that my eight year old daughter loves west life and alot of soppy ballads, on the up side though her favourite album is REM green and she has freaked a few people out at open air Turn gigs at Paddys day when she knows all the words. But yeah eight year olds do like West Life and that new Rianna song, im not sure of the name but ive heard it being screamed from the back of the car lots and thats a ballad too.
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UnicronVeteran Member Posts:1696
| 8/29/2006 10:37 AM |
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Originally posted by Binokular
In contrast, I can totally see why the pre-teen market loved a band like S-Club 7, Five, Girls Aloud or even (ugh!) Take That to an extent but not westlife. It's just bizarre.
Anyone who can't recognize the pop-brilliance that is Girls Aloud's "The Sound Of The Underground" is either dead on the inside or has their asymmetrical fringe not only pulled over their eyes but stuck in their ears too. |
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benniAdvanced Member Posts:947
| 8/29/2006 11:13 AM |
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that f**kign tune - i dont wanna be a murderer (or whatever its called) - by some chick that sounds like she is being f**king stragled - I am personally f**king offended every time that song comes on the radio in work...
as it just did 2 minutes ago - argghh the pain the PAIN!!!!!!
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MullyAdvanced Member Posts:849
| 8/29/2006 11:29 AM |
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The reason I don't listen to daytime radio ... music aimed at teenies, played to an adults audience because the audience is in school.
Seriously, how can most stations have a target audience of 16-35 ... niche, eh  |
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BinokularVeteran Member Posts:1665
| 8/29/2006 1:39 PM |
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Originally posted by Mully
Quite like the Aurora/Naimee Coleman cover of Duran Duran's 'Odrinary World'.
In fairness, while I still don't like that tune, its a lot classier than your average commercial trance/happy hardcore track. Compare it to Sunblock or DJ Sammys cover of "Heaven" complete with sickly sentimental vaguely "spiritual" video. Incidentally DJ Sammy is probably the most unintentionally funny guest to have ever been on BBCs' "Never Mind the Buzzcocks". Imagine a sort of cross between a real life Manuel from Fawlty towers and a month old puppy.... |
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UnaVeteran Member Posts:1721
| 8/29/2006 1:51 PM |
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I like 'Call On Me'. Wouldn't buy it though.
anyway, all of this boils down to....
SANDI THOM
disgraceful.
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kavobagginsBasic Member Posts:199
| 8/29/2006 2:03 PM |
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Originally posted by Una
I like 'Call On Me'. Wouldn't buy it though.
anyway, all of this boils down to....
SANDI THOM
disgraceful.
oh, the punk rocker with flowers in her hair, yeah? |
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off the postBasic Member Posts:284
| 8/29/2006 2:24 PM |
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The Eurovision, but with a few honourable exceptions.
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PhantronNew Member Posts:9
| 8/30/2006 11:47 AM |
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Ah, Ronan Keating. Ireland's favourite cover band.
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palaceBasic Member Posts:392
| 8/30/2006 12:46 PM |
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what's wrong with the punk rocker with flowers in her hair?... although it should have been 76 and 68 that revolution was in the air... she'd have just been jumping on the bandwagon in 77 and 69...
there's so many "indie" bands that have no basis for existence that they're not worth listing
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deraBasic Member Posts:163
| 8/30/2006 2:33 PM |
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Originally posted by Unicron
Anyone who can't recognize the pop-brilliance that is Girls Aloud's "The Sound Of The Underground" is either dead on the inside or has their asymmetrical fringe not only pulled over their eyes but stuck in their ears too.
I wish I had an asymmetical fringe :( |
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Rev JulesVeteran Member Posts:1041
| 8/30/2006 4:21 PM |
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Originally posted by Phantron
Ah, Ronan Keating. Ireland's favourite cover band.
I don't know, I think Damien Rice is the real prince of darkness and enemy of the people  |
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yoshimiNew Member Posts:63
| 8/30/2006 7:54 PM |
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I predict a riot. An obvious attempt to inflame the hoardes here.. :)
Hardly so inexcusably bad, but any measure or means, that it shouldn't exist.
ais.
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