| 1/20/2006 2:56 PM |
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L:istening to Fanning the other evening he had Colm (from No disco)on, who always makes sense and loves the Sprouts, so he is ok in my book, but I digress......
He made the point that at 20, almost everyone is into music of some merit. They buy decent albums, discuss bands, go to gigs etc. Then somewhere between 20 and 30 (he said 24 but I think it is older), they loose interest and go the Phil Collins/Mary Black route into hell.
They still have and cherish the old albums and often go see the bands on a nostalgia trip. But they stop caring. New bands become unimportant to them. What happens?????
Now someone will mention the fact that life (work, spouses, kids and god forbid Golf) takes over. But life caught up with me and I still care (but don't play golf!!!). The fact that many spend long hours comuniting is even more reason to listen to music.
Can someone please explain.......  |
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Earthhorse New Member Posts:55  
| 1/20/2006 3:28 PM |
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I think it's more of an experiential thing.
The first time you buy or listen to an album it's an entirely new phenomenon - "You mean there are songs *other* than the singles that are good? Wow, I never new!". Then, as you begin to build your collection, the novelty of discovering gems on albums diminishes. It doesn't dissappear, it just dims a little.
Between your teens and early twenties you're also experiencing a lot of things for the first time. Relationships, travelling, working. All this is worthy of reflection, and some of this reflection is done whilst listening to music, particularly music that speaks to you.
Finally, I think there's the fact - true of me and, I'm sure, of others - that you are broad minded but have narrow taste. I'll listen to anything - classical, rap, country, dance - but most of the music in my collection is fast paced, guitar based rock, pure and simple, and there's a limited supply of that. Or rather a limited quality supply of it.
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John Doe Basic Member Posts:338
| 1/20/2006 4:13 PM |
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Well I'm heading into my forties and if anything I'm more enthusiastic about new music now than I was in my twenties. I know plenty of 30 and 40 somethings who haven't lost their enthusiasm for music either.
Of course the problem here is also that everyone's definition of "music of merit" differs radically. Some people on this site are of the opinion that Nirvana, Metallica and Snow Patrol, for example, are just as boring as Phil Collins/Mary Black, whereas I think they rock.
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thethirdplaceNew Member Posts:72
| 1/20/2006 9:56 PM |
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there is not a storm trooper, dalek, clingon or awk that could make me lose interest in music....
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Binokular Veteran Member Posts:1665
| 1/21/2006 11:41 AM |
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People don't neccesarily lose interest in music in their 20s, they just become a bit more balanced, develop other interests, etc. That doesn't mean they have any less of an interest in music though. I read somewhere recently (can't remember where) that men in their 30s buy more albums than anyone else, maybe thats because all the "kids" have iPods now and don't buy CDs, but how else do you account for VH2 and the fact you can find Deep Purple albums in any record shop. "Black Night" rocks!  |
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ArchieBasic Member Posts:458
| 1/22/2006 8:25 PM |
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I would entirely disagree with that idea but for one point: a lot of people whilst in the midst of their terrible teens, suffering with that shocking angst stuff, find rock and metal or any other kind of music a good outlet for all the things they can otherwise not express. Some lose that interest as their dependency on that form of catharsis lessens, but for others it develops into something totally different and absorbing.
Also, just from my observations as said teenaged personage, a lot of people use music as a, well, status symbol of sorts, whilst buried in these insecure years, and that also fades. I can quote examples of this, just look at the layers of people in my school...
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| 1/23/2006 12:07 AM |
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Ah yeah, well 40 year olds aren't necassarily gonna find something like Pantera as interesting as an angsty teenage kid does. Maybe when you get a bit older you'll start to appreciate the likes of Phil Collins. He might speak to you on some level. Or some sorta s**te like that, I dunno.
At any rate, what you might not have taken into account is that there is A LOT of young people with no taste in music whatsoever. I'm in DIT Aungier street, and there is very very little musical knowledge or taste in that place. When these folks get a bit older, they'll go to Phil Collin's gigs. Not necassarily cuz they really like it, they've just got the disposable income. Disposable income that they now spend on doob shoes and GHD's. 
Also, balance/normal life takin over and all the other stuff folks have said plays a part too. |
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DamienBasic Member Posts:316
| 1/23/2006 8:32 AM |
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Originally posted by Binokular
I read somewhere recently (can't remember where) that men in their 30s buy more albums than anyone else
At least 30% of these sales are matchbox 20. |
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Mully Advanced Member Posts:849
| 1/23/2006 9:29 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Damien
quote:
Originally posted by Binokular
I read somewhere recently (can't remember where) that men in their 30s buy more albums than anyone else
At least 30% of these sales are matchbox 20.
I think in England, the demograph is called '£50 man'.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/arts/features/story/0,11710,1159112,00.html |
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DromedAdvanced Member Posts:900
| 1/23/2006 10:39 AM |
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I think as people get older they give less of a s**t about what other people are listening to...there's always loads of heads at gigs just to be seen to be there (and to pick up members of the opposite sex) not because they actually like the music. There's lots of people that buy records to have them in their collection for other people's benefit. I think the older you get the less likely you are to do that - but then I know a few people way too old for that carry on that still think it's all a big competition.
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palaceBasic Member Posts:392
| 1/23/2006 10:44 AM |
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earthorse makes a couple of very good points there...
in short, i'm 32, was completely nuts about music in the late eighties and early nineties, completely lost interest from about '94 to '99 and in recent years have been more mad about it than ever with even more diverse and alternative music tastes and even more immature and snobby about AOR / MOR type bands...
don't know if that helps?
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Vent My SpleenAdvanced Member Posts:500
| 1/23/2006 1:37 PM |
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I think that in your teens/early twenties you identify with music to a far greater degree than you do in later life. You wear it like a badge (often literally, ten hole docs, 'baggy', biker jackets for the metal heads). As you get older, you stop embracing music as part of what defines you, to be honest, you start to be a little more comfortable in your own skin. When that sense of vitality goes you are at a junction. A lot of people just drift out of needing music as a imperative in their lives. Equally, a smaller percentage continue to embrace it. From my own experience, it happens at about 25; over a year or two a great many friends just stopped going to gigs, then stopped buying records. Now, their sad subburban c**tmobiles are tuned to Q102 with Katie Melua on the CD. Good luck to them, but I've got to have music in my life. I fully intend to be embarrassing my son in 20 years time by bumping into him at Whelan's CyberGigatorium.
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MullyAdvanced Member Posts:849
| 1/23/2006 2:04 PM |
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Originally posted by miwadi
L:istening to Fanning the other evening
surely listening to Fanning is a sign that you are losing interest in music ....  |
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John DoeBasic Member Posts:338
| 1/23/2006 3:04 PM |
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Originally posted by Mully
quote:
Originally posted by miwadi
L:istening to Fanning the other evening
surely listening to Fanning is a sign that you are losing interest in music ....
Oooohhh !! Saucer of milk for Table 9, please. |
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BinokularVeteran Member Posts:1665
| 1/23/2006 7:19 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Dromed
I think as people get older they give less of a s**t about what other people are listening to...there's always loads of heads at gigs just to be seen to be there (and to pick up members of the opposite sex) not because they actually like the music. There's lots of people that buy records to have them in their collection for other people's benefit. I think the older you get the less likely you are to do that - but then I know a few people way too old for that carry on that still think it's all a big competition.
Well said!  |
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Super Nintendo ChalmersNew Member Posts:44
| 1/23/2006 10:07 PM |
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i think you lose interest because the "new" bands are generally made up of people who are younger than you. part of liking a band is often looking up to those bands. also the lyrics lose relevance sometimes, and rather than be about something are doing/ wil be doing its about something you already know about and hence they are not terribly insightful any more. also as someone else said, competing life interests/pressures.
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| 1/24/2006 3:59 PM |
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Originally posted by John Doe
Well I'm heading into my forties and if anything I'm more enthusiastic about new music now than I was in my twenties. I know plenty of 30 and 40 somethings who haven't lost their enthusiasm for music either.
Buy that man a drink. Got it spot on. I don't think age has any effect on my music opinion. In fact I'm probably more excited about music now than I have for years. The arrival of indie bands, real bands back on the scene has given music back to the people. |
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