On some of their stuff I would agree with ya Klootfan, but albums like 'The Bends' and 'OK Computer' never get old or tireless to me. The last update I read about them was that they were in the studio.

Album due next year, far as I know. And a tour. Not sure what to expect from em anymore. Thought Hail To The Thief was very good, could maybe do with some editing down but I thought it was a bit of a step back. I can still listen to their old stuff but im probably over familiar with it all so, for me, there's no surprises. Pun intended.

Do you think that albums like "Kid A" and "Hail to the thief" have aged well ? I havent heard much of "Hail to the thief" but I quite liked Kid A when it was released.

they're recording at the moment, but kloot I think you've hit on something there, everytime a Radiohead song comes up on my ipod when it's on shuffle i just press 'next'. The exception being anything from Kid A, which remains my favourite 'head album. The Bends has aged completely, and I suppose OK Computer was just so revolutionary at the time, that it's bound to be dated now, like Dark Side Of the Moon or what have you. I didn't think Hail to the Thief was a great record, so it all comes down to the fantasticness of Kid A really.

radiohead are possibly the most over-rated band EVER, to return to an earlier discussion The only album which actually did what the band always claimed they were about was "Kid A". the fact that they moved quickly back from that leftfield spot shows that they themselves, as much as their fans, had no appetite for that. boring live too.........

Totally disagree with "boring live"! Seen em three times and they're consistently spot on! I dont think an album "dating" is a problem at all. The music doesnt change, it's as great as ever but everyone's bound to become accustomed to it and take it for granted as time goes on. I disagree with ya Pilchard about them moving back from the leftfield spot. Thief was a bit more conventional but they released Kid A AND Amnesiac and Hail To The Thief is full of the same stuff Kid A had, like The Gloaming, Myxamatosis, etc. They just have some more recognisable choruses. You can say they're overrated based on personal taste but I dont think many people can deny they're all wonderful musicians, have written some amazing songs and continue to push themselves forward, or at least try.

Personally Kid A, Ok, and the bends will stand up for decades. Hail was a step back that is for sure. I dont wat to sound like every other critic and fan but i really do hope they return back to the bends. Hail to the Theif wasnt enough experimentation and the new ground they did opened was unwanted. So sure i had no appetite for that but lets get back to the national anthems, high and drys, and exit music for a film and they will be a band for the ages with the beatles and the stones.

NO! Part of what makes them great is how they try and keep moving forward and changing. Asmuch as I love The Bends, seeing them go back to that would be fairly disheartening. I wanted the new ground the opened! I just didnt know it. They ditched the anthems and came out with Idioteque, How To Disappear Completely, The National Anthem and Pyramid Song! All amazing.

Hail to the Thief is one of their better albums IMO. It may not be the most revolutionary but just like when The Bends or OK computer came out it was just that little bit organically unsettling without trying so hard - as i felt they did on the likes of Amnesiac and Kid A.

Organically unsettling, eh? Lentils give me the creeps. ;)

shaddap a yo mouth!

I definitely identify with Klootfan here, it's not like I've suddenly stopped liking Radiohead, it's just that I don't get the urge to actually purposely sit down and listen to any of their albums from beginning to end anymore. If one of their tracks came on when I've got winamp on random, depending on my mood, I might just fastforward to something more fun or think "wow, I forgot how good that was!". I don't really find one album more dated/unlistenable than the next, just some tracks more listenable than others, perhaps unsuprisingly no-one has mentioned "Pablo Honey" which seems to have been sadly consigned to the history books as a premature misfire before the artistic spark of "The Bends". It's no masterpiece but its got some decent tunes and reminds me why I got excited about the band in the first place all of 12 years ago, that makes me feel old. I suppose it highlights the reason why its hard to listen them now, Radiohead are such a teenage band musically. Especially the early stuff, it's all a bit melodramatic. It's The kind of band you listened to when you had a lot more time on your hands and hero worshipped anyone who could do a decent guitar solo. I think Una is spot on with the Pink Floyd comparison, they're another very "teenage" band, when you're 14 or 15, "The Wall" is this incredible masterpiece. I find it unlistenable now in my late 20s About Radiohead being "innovative"? I think its definitly fair to say that they were never truly at the cutting edge of anything. Earliest stuff was hooky post-nirvana indie developing into a more modern take on prog rock, later stuff always was step behind Warp/IDM and German Electronica. They do show a lot of genuine creativity and real songwriting ability though, there is definitely a lot of effort put in to try and push things onward, maybe too much effort. Trying too hard?

Whoa there! I can't get my head around all this... One thing is clear, all of you, at one stage have been fans right? Well then stop rattling on about what you can or can't get from them now, does nobody care to remember what they got from Radiohead when they were at the height of it and how much it mattered to them at the time? I wouldn't look at it as 'ageing' or 'dated' either, it's not a weakness in a band if they become hard to listen to after years, the only reason it might sound like this is, for me anyway, because I played the bloody albums to death! And only because they rocked! Reading all these comments just spurred me on to listen to Hail to the theif on my pod... I'm actually really surprised at the negativity, it's a masterpiece, it was everything they had been doing for years finally merging into one perfect sound, like all the other albums were just trial and error until they found their niche... Wolf at the Door... 2+2... it's all great stuff... Obviously each to their own, but what I have always loved about Radiohead is their ability to change and evolve all the time, I think it's quite boring when people say they 'prefer' the Bends for example.. it's like they're missing the point because you may as well be listening to another band on Hail to the thief, I suppose I just think they are imcomparable... but then again I've also always thought the same with Pearl Jam, I thought Vitalogy, No Code and Yield (Truth be told I lost interest after that) were class albums but you always had the heads who thought that Ten was sent from above and nothing else mattered, though again I thought they were incomparable. But I seem to be in a minority on that last one so I could be very, very wrong...