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No direction home - Dylan Biopic
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9/24/2005 9:10 PM
    this is probably old news but martin scorcese's 2-part biography of bob dylan will be on bbc next week, mon 26th and tues 27th. i've read a few reviews of it which were really positive - should be well worth watching. from bobdylan.com: The two-part film, which focuses on the singer-songwriter's life and music from 1961-66, includes never-seen performance footage and interviews with artists and musicians whose lives intertwined with Dylan's during that time. Dylan talks openly and extensively about this critical period in his career, detailing the journey from his hometown of Hibbing, Minnesota, to Greenwich Village, New York, where he became the center of a musical and cultural upheaval, the effects of which are still felt today. For the first time, The Bob Dylan Archives has made available rare treasures from its film, tape and stills collection, including footage from Murray Lerner's film Festival documenting performances at the 1963, 1964 and 1965 Newport Folk Festivals, previously unreleased outtakes from D.A. Pennebaker's famed 1967 documentary Don't Look Back, and interviews with Allen Ginsberg, Pete Seeger, Joan Baez, Maria Muldaur, and many others. In anticipation of the film, members of Dylan's worldwide community of fans also contributed rarities from their own collections. http://www.bobdylan.com/ndh.html
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    9/25/2005 1:03 PM
    i can't wait for this. the trailer ("What the f**k? are they booing? i can't staand it!") is hilarious. ooohhh...
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    9/25/2005 2:23 PM
    Should be good alright
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    9/26/2005 9:01 AM
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    Should be good alright
    If you find your apppetite whetted by this I'd recommed getting a copy of Eat The Document, the film (semi-)edited by Dylan and Robbie Robertson and others which chronicles events in 1966. The presentation is quite dated, and logic and sense disappear from the off, but the footage itself is fascinating, and Marty's used a fair bit of it in tomorrow night's programme.
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    9/27/2005 3:50 PM
    Was it any good? Scorcese blues doc is on bbc2 this week too.
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    9/27/2005 7:49 PM
    yeah it was good. The bits I found more interesting were the artists that Dylan was influenced by. Dylan was funny in a dry way. Anyone else watch it? If so, can you imagine being stuck in a bar with Liam Clancy for more than ten minutes?
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    9/27/2005 8:06 PM
    Saw the first part last night and, personally, thought an arena documentary entitled 'rock and roll tales: highway 61 revisited' from the 1990s was more insightful into Dylan. Part two, I thought, was fascinating in terms of the footage but, again, viewed him from outside and his own interviews kept the mystery intact.
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    9/27/2005 11:38 PM
    I think more than anything, it proves how influential Dylan has been throughout his career. Maybe in years to come, our children will be learning about him in school and his lyrics will be in their poetry books. The documentary itself proves how vital editing and usage of a soundtrack is to providing a flowing feel to a piece of film. The lack of narration and director's signature elevates it to an enjoyable film, far from something like Michael Moore does. I have seen plenty of documentaries about Dylan that are truly avoidable (especially 'The Home Movies') but Scorcese simply let's the interviewees speak and the footage roll.
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    9/28/2005 8:51 AM
    i thought it was brilliant. Great to see the interviews with Dylan himself, the footage was great, especially the arguments in the first episode after the Royal Albert Hall(Manchester Free Trade Hall?) gigs, "we didnt come to see a pop group" "What pop group sounds like that?"
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    9/28/2005 12:57 PM
    I thought the voice of a generation, the oracle, the most influential, the most hated, the most overmythologised...came across as an ordinary bloke with his tongue firmly planted in his cheek. Especially that sly grin when recalling his first 2 girlfriends..."I guess you could say they brought out the poet in me".
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    9/28/2005 3:32 PM
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    I thought the voice of a generation, the oracle, the most influential, the most hated, the most overmythologised...came across as an ordinary bloke with his tongue firmly planted in his cheek.
    Or is that another mask ?
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    9/28/2005 4:13 PM
    really enjoyed it. some of the footage of interviews from the 60's was hilarious. the "suck your glasses" bit reminded me of the "prease! lip my tights" scene in lost in transation. it was great too to hear some of the people dylan was influenced by when he moved to new york - that odetta clip was stunning.
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    9/28/2005 5:10 PM
    Dylan and Cash stoned at the piano was pretty special. Also the line "You cant be wise and in love at the same time." Nevertheless, by all accounts he was a prick to Miss Baez in the end. Oh and the northern lads moaning about him. "Bob Dylan was a bastard in the second half.." heh heh
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    9/28/2005 5:59 PM
    he came out with some great lines alright, him and cash was well groovy, would have liked to see some more of odetta too, but that would be a different program! Actually i thought the sound quality of a lot of the clips was really exceptional, considering it was so long ago and such a s**tty set up, his electric appearance at newport for example. Aye he was a bit of a d**k to Baez, (and a lot of women apparently) but ya gotta remember she was trying to push him into politics, and do all these things that he spent his life running from, essentially she was trying to put her own picture on him and that has to piss you off. As well he looked wired to the f**king moon on pills (think he was addicted to diet pills around that time, think theyre uppers of some sort?) so doubt his nerves were in any fit state to handle her!
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    9/29/2005 9:26 AM
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    Originally posted by Daragh As well he looked wired to the f**king moon on pills (think he was addicted to diet pills around that time, think theyre uppers of some sort?) so doubt his nerves were in any fit state to handle her!
    There's a host of rumours about his drug intake at this time, and on balance I'd imagine it was something a lot stronger than uppers or speed. But the main reason for the tiredness/strung out thing was the tour schedule, the impending leg of which caused the bike accident, and the 'retirement'
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