Some people were surprised that The Frames won. But each to their own opinion.

People need to give The Frames a break. They are the same as any other band, you either like them or you don't, you don't need to give them such a hard time. A lot of people don't like Damien Rice, but you don't hear us ripping him to shreds at every available opportunity...:) Actually, I agree though, that album was a bit of a disappointment. But they are a better live act than studio act. I voted for Nick Cave's new one. Utter genius. Always

I like The Frames but didn't vote for them myself.

I like em too. More people need to join this discussion...

I like the Frames, in fact I'm even going over to Amsterdam to see them and the bellies next month (although it's got more to do with the location then the bands), but I didn't vote for them, I was completely shocked to see them top the writers pole.

closet frame loving disease, most people who do slag em off are a bit envious of them when all is said and done, even if they don't wanna admit it

Its not that i dont like the frames. its just that after for the birds they had two ways to go soundwise. i personally think they went the wrong way. live you cant knock them and dance the devil is one of those albums that ill be listening till i die but i dont like the version of pavement tune when they play it live now. it should all kick in with the "let me take you by the hand line" it doesnt.

the frames are the classic marmite band. personally i hated them until i saw them at witnness 2002. they blew me away and from then on i've been an unashamed hansophile. burn the maps isn't a scratch on any of their other albums. even though it did revive fake after the single version almost killed it. it was too atmospheric for the sake of being atmospheric. too much awkward progression and clever d**kery. but if they're becoming bored with the frames era of pavement tune/revelate/star star then they have every right to try get some distance from it. it just may not work as they want it to. twats will be calling for red chord for many years to come

please someone address this issue for me: "fake" in the chorus sounds vaguely like "today" by the smashing pumpkins. Anyone? I love a few frames tunes from down through the years but they're a bit limited in expression for my own taste (before you attack remember i said "for my own taste", I'm being subjective here). But they do a few things that no one else can touch.