ok I'll whole heartedly disagree with that! I have a few nominations - one would def be Manic Street Preachers. Absolute s**t. Apart from one or two good tunes in their early years I never got why they were so often lauded as one of the seminal bands of the past few years.

Couldnt agree with the smiths as being over rated. It might take a while to get into them, but they aint half bad at all... In my own humble opinion, Oasis are highly over rated, I think they are largely successful due to the antics of the gallagher brothers and the scene at the time. people liked seeing liam strutting around like a muppet.being the big rock star..and i think that Pete Doherty is attracting attention for the same reason

Defo agree with you there Kloot - Oasis are wayyyyy over-rated. A couple of good tunes does not a rock giant make. The title of lyrical genius bestowed on Noel Gallagher from some camps is plain ridiculous. Morrissey/The Smiths on the other hand know how to pen a tune. I'm not in to sentimentalising that band - but regrdless of context The Smiths had some amazing tunes, great riffs and Morrisseys noir observations. A brilliant lyricist, even if he can be a sour faced fop. Currently think Bloc Party are the most over rated band going. Terrible, terrible lyrics.

Joy Division. I just never got the appeal. Tedious, droning depression music. *Cue pitchforks and burning torches as hordes of outraged Cluas readers descend on John Doe's home*

Oh yea totally I was just taking the piss with that mob comment obviously. I just think thats why there is a bit of a Joy D backlash going on now so many years later. They seem to be having more success now than they did in 81! One band that gets my semi vote is (and I'm gonna get slated for this I know) is... The Beatles. Dont get me wrong I know they are great obviously but the work that gets the most praise is the latter years whereas in my opinion the earlier Rock n Roll -Ticket to Ride era stuff is mainly where its at for me. Ok... you can all attack now.

Shame on you for suggesting the Beatles are overrated! I couldn't agree more with Joy Division/Ian Curtis being over rated, I have given their music a chance and really can't see the 'genius' that people talk about. The big one for me is Enemem. I cannot understand how people worship this guy. Granted there are one are two numbers with heart felt lyrics and a catchy bass lines. But overall its crap, comically bad music that you expect to her from a 15 year old with a casio player. 'Would the real slim shady please stand up please stand up please stand up'

don't agree with the beatles or the smiths...ceratinly don't agree with joy division but i didn't realise there was a backlash against them? - they've always been well followed and referenced, nothing's changed there i don't think... they should really be taken as a whole with early new order as well - massively influential ...do agree with the manic street preachers - bland, bland music - it's the lyrics that appear to attract many - not me however... can't really think of any of my own... never really got blur... not 100% sure about talking heads either - their star has grown over the years

Noooo see what I mean is I think the Beatles later stuff is overrated comparitively to the earlier stuff which is never really given a look in. I am well aware of their massive influence and contribution to music. Re: Joy Division there isnt really a back lash as such but lately with sooooooo many bands and articles name checking them they have become much more commercially exposed and therefore their 'genius' or whatever is being examined a lot more - are they worthy of all of this influential praise they are recieving of late? etc (which in my opinion they most certainly are) So there ya go.

Damien Dempsey - People go on like he's the new Christy Moore but he's more like the new Richie Kavanagh. He's got a voice which is more suited for selling sports socks on Moore Street than it is for singing. He's penned some of the most clichéd, juvenile cringe inducing lyrics I've ever heard. And the music is just boll*cks. Pearl Jam - I don't see any difference between them and Nickleback. Bland, unimaginative, lowest common denominator American rawk in it's worst form. Pink Floyd - How is it that every dodgy 70's prog rock band from Genesis to Emerson, Lake & Palmer get the piss ripped out of them but these boring self indulgent b*stards get away scot free? Metallica/System of a Down/Dozens of other "credible" metal bands - Nonsense for Retards. Idelwild - They're just the new Travis aren't they? Paddy Casey/Mundy - Two of the worst songwriters I've ever had the misfortune to hear. Muse/Chilli Peppers/Foo Fighters/Killers - They all have a couple of alright tunes but not enough to justify their reputations. Green Day - What's supposed to be the difference between these fellas and the Offspring? Guns N Roses - A more colourful Bon Jovi. Nothing more. U2 - haven't done anything decent since the 90's. The Smiths, The Beatles, Talking Heads, Bloc Party and Joy Division are all class. While they might have done some good stuff at the start of their careers Eminem, Oasis and the Manics have been churning out sh*t for years. Blur's back catalogue is patchy but they've released a lot of great tunes over the years. Oh and while they do have their moments Sonic Youth and the Who are over rated too.

Good man Stroller! That gave me a good laugh, never one to sit on the fence! Not that I agree with any of your sugggestions.

Joy Division are an incredibly depressing band, they are extremely harsh to listen to and if it wasn't for "Love Will Tear Us Apart" I doubt they would have ever really registered on the mainstream conciousness. I like Joy Division, they're one of my favourite bands, but at the same time its easy to see why some people don't like them. Their music is a bit stark and minimal isn't it? I generally prefer to listen to New Order over Joy Division. Now Joy Division have spawned a load of imitators and people who've been influenced by them recently, just like they did the first time round, but you can't really hold them responsible for that can you? It'd be like holding The Stooges responsible for The Hives. Beatles - Over/Under-rated? I dunno, I think John Lennon kind of put his finger on the problem with the infamous "bigger than Jesus" (mis)quote, the Beatles are so big that no one really has a sense of perspective on them. The Beatles are good but not that good is my personal view. Can't agree about Sonic Youth, a modern and superior Velvet Underground in my opinion, but then I like almost everything these guys do, except maybe the more extreme moments of experimentation/avant-garde posturing. Metallica - hard to say, lead singers a muppet, last album was crap, but Enter Sandman rocks! The Manics actually showed promise on a couple of early singles and I like "motorcycle emptiness" ( I think thats what its called), but other than that mostly yawn-inducing. Smiths - never into them myself, but definitely a couple of good tunes, and Johnny Marr deserves serious respect as a guitarist. Eminem - couldn't agree more, this guys 15 minutes of Jerry Springer-esque fame are up! NEXT!

I think Pink Floyd are pretty good, who gives a f**k about all their ego fuelled excess, they have made some quality albums. Dark Side of The Moon, Piper at The Gates of Dawn, and Wish You Were Here, are three really, really good albums. I also think that they made a joke out of every other performance at live8, (that i saw anyway). I dont really see the attraction of a lot of new bands like Razorlight, Kasabian, and Bloc Party though, they're alright, but not really that great at all.

In defense of The Who - patch, often poorly recorded albums, but great moments that make it all worthwhile. If any heavy rock band from that era is overrated, I'd say its Led Zeppelin - revered by rock fans, yet just nowhere near as good as the Who, Hendrix and even Cream.

I think James Blunt is over-rated

Anything connected to Pete Doherty. Kaiser Cheifs Franz Ferdinand THE STONE f**kING ROSES Happy Mondays