Rev JulesVeteran Member Posts:1041
7/1/2004 12:00 PM |
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My recent worrying that, in my thirties, I am too old to rock (see 'Did Metallica Phone It In @ RDS' thread) has made me consider the question, when are you too old to rock ? My musings have also been prompted by two recent newspaper articles. The first, in last week's Sunday Tribune about Republic of Loose ('Pretty Fly For White Guys) posits that you are over the hill at 30. The second, in last week's London Times, featured an interview with Bonnie Raitt where she said that she didn't come into her own as a rocker until she hit middle age (forty plus). So, who is right ?
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BinokularVeteran Member Posts:1665
7/1/2004 12:32 PM |
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Rubbish, in the last few years Sonic Youth (how ironic) and New Order both have released albums that are arguably up there with the best of their career despite being "over the hill". Don't believe the the Rock and Roll myth machine, only complacency stops artists from continuing to be great. Maybe some of the initial energy is lost, but that is tempered by experience.
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eyeballkidNew Member Posts:51
7/1/2004 12:38 PM |
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I've often wondered about this, particularly as it seems perfectly fine for rock stars to keep going until they're 70 (see Rolling Stones) but a definite no-no for Joe Public. This age gap between audience and artist runs through music. The heroes of your teenage angst (for me Morrissey, Kurt Cobain) were all at least ten years older than me when I thought everything they said was relevant to my life. So does this mean that rock stars are emotionally retarded and doomed to be forever trapped in the ridiculous irrationality of adolesence? Or is it us that grow up too quickly and become too serious and too conformist? I suppose you can keep going as long as you are comfortable within the environment. You could end up as cool as John Peel though more than likely you'll be like those wrinkly fifty year old you see off their head and waving glo sticks at raves.
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LuceraBasic Member Posts:180
7/1/2004 12:48 PM |
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you really only learn how to take drugs properly as you mature, so there one of the three.
musicians tend to get better with practie, so you can "rock" and "roll"
unfortunatly, i thik women beat men on the whole sex thing, reaching peak at 35, is it? men are spent by 18, before we've even figured out whats goin on!
still 2 out of 3 aint bad (according to the 'loaf!)
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GarVeteran Member Posts:1676
7/1/2004 12:55 PM |
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You are never too old for rock n' roll. Why should any type of music be placed in an age bracket? Who cares, you like what you like and that's it...forget everyone who frowns at your taste.
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John DoeBasic Member Posts:338
7/1/2004 1:47 PM |
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Two words: Johnny Cash.
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John DoeBasic Member Posts:338
7/1/2004 1:54 PM |
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I celebrated my 40th birthday recently. A week beforehand I was bouncing around the mosh pit at the Pixies Phoenix Park gig. I have every intention of growing old disgracefully.
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QsySueBasic Member Posts:119
7/1/2004 4:01 PM |
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I'll probably be deaf by the time I'm 50, but I don't think even that will stop me from going to shows.
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Rev JulesVeteran Member Posts:1041
7/1/2004 11:33 PM |
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Hmm, this seems to be quite an emotive topic with y'all.
Ok, let me ask you this then. When are you too old to contemplate starting a career as a professional rock/roots/pop/etc musician ?
Again, two things to chew on.
1) Korda Marshall, Head of Atlantic Records UK, who said this week, "You have to be quite strong to turn round to four accountants, and three lawyers and say, 'I believe in this 21-year-old's ability to sing and write".
2) Don Walser, who recently hit with his song 'Rolling Stone from Texas' when it appeared on the soundtrack for the movie 'Second Hand Lions' did not become a professional musician until he was 60, when he retired from the National Guard in 1994.
Over to y'all again.
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El DuderinoBasic Member Posts:179
7/2/2004 7:41 AM |
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quote: Originally posted by Rev Jules
When are you too old to contemplate starting a career as a professional rock/roots/pop/etc musician ?
I was watching that documentary with Damien Dempsey earlier in the year and there was a bit in it where he said that he felt he had to try to establish himself as a professional musician before he was thirty. This makes alot of sense as, like it or not there are certain realities that cannot be avoided after a certain age. That age might not necessarily be 30 but there is a cut off point somewhere.
Without a doubt it is harder for an older person to make an impact in such an image dependant industry. However, all hope is not lost. The main thing about making it as a professional musician is to have the courage of your convictions and that is something that doesn't necessarily fade with age.
So in summary I guess I'm saying, the older you are the harder it's gonna be, but if you really, really want it and circumstances don't conspire against you there's no reason why you can't become a professional musician at any age...I think
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GarVeteran Member Posts:1676
7/2/2004 11:31 AM |
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If your material is good enough, age won't come into the equation. I wouldn't refer from buying a cd just because the artist is over a certain age. Many artists mature and write better as they get older. Not to mention some of their voices sounding excellent, look at the late stages of Johnny Cash's career and at Kristoferson, Dylan, Earle, Amiee Mann, Patti Scialfa, Springsteen, Reed, Young....the list is endless. Simply age has no bearing on how good the artist is, unless your target audience is under 15's then you might have slight problem.
Rev Jules, if your post is hinting at you trying to make a break at it. I implore you to go for it. I got your Ep and it really is great stuff. Wrote short review of it aswell and sent it to Eoghan. Keep it up mate.
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